7 Things (Miley Cyrus) and 75, Games of Venus (Catullus)

7 Things

(Ancient Text by Catullus, translated by Peter Bing and Rip Cohen) and 7 Things (Contemporary Song by Miley Cyrus)

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Catullus talks about how he has devoted so much of his love to Lesbia, his lover, that even though she has emotionally scared him and he wants to stop loving her, he cannot, “My mind has been dragged down so far…thanks to you,” and “squandered itself so much in its devotion, that it could no longer love you… or stop wanting you.” Similarly, in the song 7 Things Miley Cyrus expresses her feelings of not being able to completely hate her lover since she simultaneously loves him. Both authors express an inner turmoil of strongly hating but also loving a single person. Cyrus lists the 7 things that her lover does that she hates, but also the 7 things she loves about him. The last 7th thing that Cyrus says she hates is “the 7th thing I hate the most that you do You make me love you” while also saying “the 7th thing I like the most that you do You make me love you,” indicating a similar inner turmoil of strongly hating and loving the same person.

Catullus is also similar to Cyrus in that he claims that “even if you were perfect”, if things changed, he would not love her. In Cyrus’s song she sings “Oh I’m not coming back, You’re taking 7 steps here.” Both author expresses how even if things were to change for the better, they would choose not to reenter into the relationship, even though they have both expressed their unchanging love. 

There is some inconsistency in Cyrus’s song, especially when she sings “But nothing’s ever gonna change until you hear, my dear…” before she lists her 7 complaints. This text can be interpreted as a way for Cyrus to gain her lover back by telling him what she didn’t like and what went wrong, with the hope that things will change and they can re-form a relationship. Catullus is different in that he expresses a desire to never love Lesbia again, and is only attached to Lesbia because his mind has been squandered so much in its devotion. 

Ancient Text Excerpt:

75 (page 211)

My mind has been dragged down so far, Lesbia, thanks to you,
and squandered itself so much in its devotion,
that it could no longer love you, even if you were perfect,
or stop wanting you, no matter what you did.

Key Lyrics:

“It was awesome but we lost it
It’s not possible for me not to care”

“The 7 things I hate about you (oh you)
You’re vain, your games, you’re insecure
You love me, you like her
You make me laugh, you make me cry
I don’t know which side to buy…
And the 7th thing I hate the most that you do
You make me love you”

“The 7 things I like about you
Your hair, your eyes, your old Levi’s
And when we kiss, I’m hypnotized
You make me laugh, you make me cry
But I guess that’s both I’ll have to buy
Your hand in mine
When we’re intertwined everything’s alright
I want to be
With the one I know
And the 7th thing I like the most that you do
You make me love you”

“Oh I’m not coming back
You’re taking 7 steps here”


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I probably shouldn’t say this
But at times I get so scared
When I think about the previous
Relationship we’ve shared
It was awesome but we lost it
It’s not possible for me not to care
And now we’re standing in the rain
But nothing’s ever gonna change until you hear, my dear
The 7 things I hate about you
The 7 things I hate about you (oh you)
You’re vain, your games, you’re insecure
You love me, you like her
You make me laugh, you make me cry
I don’t know which side to buy
Your friends they’re jerks
And when you act like them, just know it hurts
I wanna be with the one I know
And the 7th thing I hate the most that you do
You make me love you
It’s awkward and silent
As I wait for you to say
But what I need to hear now
Is your sincere apology
And when you mean it, I’ll believe it
If you text it, I’ll delete it
Let’s be clear
Oh I’m not coming back
You’re taking 7 steps here
The 7 things I hate about you (oh you)
You’re vain, your games, you’re insecure
You love me, you like her
You make me laugh, you make me cry
I don’t know which side to buy
Your friends they’re jerks
And when you act like them, just know it hurts
I wanna be with the one I know
And the 7th thing I hate the most that you do
You make me love you
And compared to all the great things
That would take too long to write
I probably should mention
The 7 that I like
The 7 things I like about you
Your hair, your eyes, your old Levi’s
And when we kiss, I’m hypnotized
You make me laugh, you make me cry
But I guess that’s both I’ll have to buy
Your hand in mine
When we’re intertwined everything’s alright
I want to be
With the one I know
And the 7th thing I like the most that you do
You make me love you
You do (oh)

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