Parallels

Cat's in the Cradle

(Ancient Text by Tibullus, translated by Peter Bing, Rip Cohen) and Cat's in the Cradle (Contemporary Song by Harry Chapin)

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Through his poetry, Tibullus seems to be warning his readers to love while they are still young. He writes, “So you, while you’ve got the pristine blossom of your youth, use it. It slips away on light feet.” (Tibullus 1.8, lines 47-48). Tibullus is saying that you won’t be young forever, and that you should use your youth to love. In a similar way, “Cat’s in the Cradle” by Harry Chapin tells the story of his relationship with his son. At first, the father doesn’t have time to spend with his son, and then later on when the son is all grown up, the son now doesn’t have time to spend with the father. The father wasted his time to spend with his son when he was young, and it was gone by the time he was older.

One large difference between these two works is that Tibullus is talking more about romantic love as opposed to “Cat’s in the Cradle” is more about familial love. While this is a rather large distinction, I still feel that the overall message of the two are still fairly similar. Both pieces convey that we should take advantage of our love while we are still able to because love doesn’t last forever. In the case of Tibullus, romantic love fades with age, and with “Cat’s in the Cradle” relationships between children and their parents may fade with time, so it is important to cherish it while it lasts.

Ancient Text Excerpt:

So you, while you’ve got the pristine blossom of your youth,
use it. It slips away on light feet.
(Tibullus 1.8, lines 47-48)

Key Lyrics:

Now I’ve retired, my son’s moved away
I called him up just the other day
I said, “I’d like to see you, if you don’t mind”
He said, “I’d love to, Dad, if I could find the time
My new job’s a hassle and the kids got the flu
But it’s nice talkin’ to you Dad, it’s sure nice talkin’ to you”


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A child arrived just the other day
He came to the world in the usual way
But there were planes to catch, and bills to pay
He learned to walk while I was away
And he was talkin’ ‘fore I knew it and as he grew
He said, I’m gonna be like you, Dad
You know I’m gonna be like you
And the cat’s in the cradle and the silver spoon
Little boy blue and the man on the moon
When you comin’ home Dad?
I don’t know when but we’ll get together then
You know we’ll have a good time then
My son turned ten just the other day,
He said “Thanks for the ball, Dad, come on let’s play
Can you teach me to throw?”, I said
“Not today, I got a lot to do”, he said, “That’s okay”
And he walked away but his smile never dimmed
He said, “I’m gonna be like him, yeah
You know I’m gonna be like him”
And the cat’s in the cradle and the silver spoon
Little boy blue and the man on the moon
When you comin’ home, Dad?
I don’t know when but we’ll get together then
You know we’ll have a good time then
He came from college just the other day
So much like a man, I just had to say
“Son I’m proud of you, can you sit for a while?”
He shook his head, and said with a smile
“What I’d really like, Dad, is to borrow the car keys
See ya later, can I have them please?”
And the cat’s in the cradle, and the silver spoon
Little boy blue and the man on the moon
When you comin’ home Son?
I don’t know when but we’ll get together then, Dad
You know we’ll have a good time then
Now I’ve retired, my son’s moved away
I called him up just the other day
I said, “I’d like to see you, if you don’t mind”
He said, “I’d love to, Dad, if I could find the time
My new job’s a hassle and the kids got the flu
But it’s nice talkin’ to you Dad, it’s sure nice talkin’ to you”
As I hung up the phone it occurred to me
He’d grown up just like me
My boy was just like me
And the cat’s in the cradle, and the silver spoon
Little boy blue and the man on the moon
When you comin’ home, Son?
I don’t know when but we’ll get together then Dad
You gonna have a good time then

Just The Way You Are

(Ancient Text by Tibullus, translated by Bing And Cohen) and Just The Way You Are (Contemporary Song by Bruno Mars)

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Beauty is an important theme when discussing love because it is often the initial object of attraction between people. Humans are attracted to beautiful things, whether this is beauty in a person, the natural world, or even art. Both the lyrics from the Bruno Mars song and the quote from Tibullus mention hair in relation to the beauty of the person they admire. Both excerpts are also focusing on the natural beauty of their beloveds and the lack of effort it takes them to be enchanting to the men. This sentiment could be related to the rose-colored glasses that many people are said to wear when they fall in love with someone. When strong feelings develop, it is easy to overlook the flaws of the other person.

Unlike Bruno Mars’ song, which is a genuine love song, Tibullus’ work is tainted with a bitter note. The rest of the piece focuses on how a previous love has moved on to another boy, leaving the author to lament about how her looks enchant men to love her even when she has moved on.

Ancient Text Excerpt:

“It’s useless to change your clothes, to change your cloaks,
to pinch your feet in tight-laced shoes.
She looks good even when she hasn’t done her face
or coaxed her hair to a skillful shine.”
page 237: 1.8^15- Line 13-16

Key Lyrics:

Her hair, her hair falls perfectly without her trying
She’s so beautiful and I tell her everyday
Yeah, I know, I know when I compliment her she won’t believe me
And it’s so, it’s so sad to think that she don’t see what I see.


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Like a Virgin

(Ancient Text by Longus, translated by Ronald McCail) and Like a Virgin (Contemporary Song by Madonna)

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A popular concept in love is virginity and how it can be a somewhat new and scary experience this is seen both in Longus’s “Daphnis and Chloe” and Madonna’s “like a virgin.” In “Daphnis and Chloe” Daphnis did not know the first thing about sex and was very confused and lost as what to do to show and complete his bond with Chloe. He was becoming very confused and sexually frustrated because he did not know the first thing about love or love-making. Enter Lycaenion who happily volunteers to help teach Daphnis the art of love-making and take his virginity. Similarly in the song “Like a virgin.” Madonna sings about being lost, incomplete and sad and blue until she found her lover. This reminded me of how sad and confused Daphnis was before he met Lycaenion and she helped him through learning the process of love-making and giving him the tools he needed to be happy with Chloe. It seems both songs outline how scary a new experience like sex can be for a virgin and it is imperative to have someone who you feel comfortable with to help guide the experience. 
However, In Madonna’s song it is inferred that she is in love with the subject of the song and that is why she feels like a virgin. Whereas, in “Daphnis and Chloe” Lycaenion is actually married and Daphnis’s heart is already taken by Chloe. This outlines the fact that in “Daphnis and Chloe” The art of love-making in this instance is more of a teaching moment while in Madonnas instance it is more of a showcase of love and affection. Both pieces of art do show that without guidance feeling like a virgin who does not have a lot of information on love, or sex can be exciting but also  confusing and not straight forward.

Ancient Text Excerpt:

After Daphnis had sat by her, kissed her, lain down with her in his arms, Lycanenion could tell that he was able for love-making and all athrob with desire; so she made him raise himself a little from where he lay on his side, slid her body expertly under his, and guided him into the road which had eluded him till then. After that she didn’t bother to do anything exotic- there was no need, because Nature herself taught him how to complete the act.
(Longus, Daphnis and Chloe page 54, 18)

Key Lyrics:

I made it through the wilderness
Somehow I made it through
Didn’t know how lost I was
Until I found you
I was beat
Incomplete
I’d been had, I was sad and blue
But you made me feel
Yeah, you made me feel
Shiny and new
Hoo, Like a virgin
Touched for the very first time
Like a virgin
When your heart beats
Next to mine


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I made it through the wilderness
Somehow I made it through
Didn’t know how lost I was
Until I found you
I was beat
Incomplete
I’d been had, I was sad and blue
But you made me feel
Yeah, you made me feel
Shiny and new
Hoo, Like a virgin
Touched for the very first time
Like a virgin
When your heart beats
Next to mine
Gonna give you all my love, boy
My fear is fading fast
Been saving it all for you
‘Cause only love can last
You’re so fine
And you’re mine
Make me strong, yeah you make me bold
Oh your love thawed out
Yeah, your love thawed out
What was scared and cold
Like a virgin, hey
Touched for the very first time
Like a virgin
With your heartbeat
Next to mine
Whoa
Whoa, ah
Whoa
You’re so fine
And you’re mine
I’ll be yours
‘Till the end of time
‘Cause you made me feel
Yeah, you made me feel
I’ve nothing to hide
Like a virgin, hey
Touched for the very first time
Like a virgin
With your heartbeat
Next to mine
Like a virgin, ooh ooh
Like a virgin
Feels so good inside
When you hold me,
And your heart beats,
And you love me
Oh oh, ooh whoa
Oh oh oh whoa
Whoa oh ho, ho
Ooh baby
Yeah
Can’t you hear my heart beat
For the very first time?

November Rain

(Ancient Text by Theognis of Megara, translated by Peter Bing and Rip Cohen) and November Rain (Contemporary Song by Guns N' Roses)

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Unrequited love is a theme that arises in many of the ancient texts, and honestly, is a theme that is continued to be written about today. The idea of loving someone who does not reciprocate the same feelings or is unsure about their feelings is a love story as old as time. However, unrequited love has many complexities depending on the context and can vary across relationships. In the “2nd Book”, written by the poet Theognis, the idea of unrequited love comes up multiple times, but the occurrence that stands out to me is in the story of a lover and his chase of a younger boy. This situation serves as an example of pederastic love often described in classical literature and is one of the most common examples of unrequited love. In fact, this pederastic relationship is almost encouraged by society to be an unrequited relationship. In classical society, it was common for older people to feel sexual attraction towards the idea of youth, or younger people themselves. However, it was common for younger people not to be sexually attracted to the idea of old age, or their elders. Rather, young people were encouraged to be attracted to wisdom, typically in a non-sexual way. Theognis’ story is a great example of this relationship since the lover is seen pursuing a younger, beautiful boy attempting to tell him that he is in love with him. The boy, however, does not exactly reciprocate these feelings, and the lover often brings this up in the literature, often asking why he does not respect him or return his kindness. This reminded me of a line in Guns N’ Roses’s song called November Rain, in which the singer is speaking to his lover and telling her that if she won’t love him, he’ll just keep walking in the cold November Rain. This incites a very gloomy picture and the audience thinks about the feeling of rejection or loneliness, and this is sort of the same feeling I got when reading about the older man in this story.

Although the feelings that are aroused are similar, the situations of unrequited love are very different. In the case of the “2nd Book”, it seems that there is no underlying relationship between the two men in the story, and it seems that the older man is solely attracted to the younger boy for sex. Most of the lover’s remarks about the about the younger lover are about his physical beauty and youth. On the other hand, the story told in November Rain gives the impression that there are two people who have a deep history and prior relationship. It also seems that love in this relationship is not solely sexual. The other main difference was that the love in November Rain is talked about in a hopeful way, implying that the other person actually might truly love the singer. However, the love in the “2nd Book” seemed extremely one-sided and hopeless for the lover.

Ancient Text Excerpt:

“2nd Book”, Lines 1263-1266:

“Boy, you paid back a bad exchange for kindness.
No thanks from you for favors.
You’ve never given me pleasure. And though I’ve often
been kind to you, I never won your respect.”

Key Lyrics:

So if you want to love me
Then darlin’ don’t refrain
Or I’ll just end up walkin’
In the cold November rain


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When I look into your eyes
I can see a love restrained
But darlin’ when I hold you
Don’t you know I feel the same
Nothin’ lasts forever
And we both know hearts can change
And it’s hard to hold a candle
In the cold November rain
We’ve been through this such a long long time
Just tryin’ to kill the pain, oo yeah
But love is always coming and love is always going
And no one’s really sure who’s lettin’ go today
Walking away
If we could take the time
To lay it on the line
I could rest my head
Just knowin’ that you were mine
All mine
So if you want to love me
Then darlin’ don’t refrain
Or I’ll just end up walkin’
In the cold November rain
Do you need some time on your own
Do you need some time all alone
Everybody needs some time
On their own
Don’t you know you need some time all alone
I know it’s hard to keep an open heart
When even friends seem out to harm you
But if you could heal a broken heart
Wouldn’t time be out to charm you
Sometimes I need some time on my
Own
Sometimes I need some time all alone
Everybody needs some time
On their own
Don’t you know you need some time all alone
And when your fears subside
And shadows still remain, oh yeah
I know that you can love me
When there’s no one left to blame
So never mind the darkness
We still can find a way
‘Cause nothin’ lasts forever
Even cold November rain
Don’t ya think that you need somebody
Don’t ya think that you need someone
Everybody needs somebody
You’re not the only one
You’re not the only one
Don’t ya think that you need somebody
Don’t ya think that you need someone
Everybody needs somebody
You’re not the only one
You’re not the only one
Don’t ya think that you need somebody
Don’t ya think that you need someone
Everybody needs somebody
You’re not the only one
You’re not the only one
Don’t ya think that you need somebody
Don’t ya think that you need someone
Everybody needs somebody

Jessie's Girl

(Ancient Text by Ovid, translated by Peter Bing and Rip Cohen) and Jessie's Girl (Contemporary Song by Rick Springfield)

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Ovid’s poem describes how people always want things and people they can’t have, such as a girl who belongs to someone else. Similarly, Rick Springfield writes a song about how he wants his friend’s girl and wants to “make her mine”. Both Ovid and Springfield express the idea that a person who is already taken and is unavailable is even more attractive to them. Ovid instructs the reader to guard his girl because it is foolish for him not to think someone else wants her, and goes on further to say that he would “love her more” if she was protected better. This emphasizes his desire for a girl that is hard-to-get. Rick Springfield uses imagery to convey how Jessie’s girl is loving Jessie “with that body” and watching him “with those eyes”. He is talking about the girl using descriptions of her loving his friend, which shows how he too is more attracted to this girl because she is in a relationship with his friend.

Interestingly, Ovid emphasizes that men should guard their women more in his poem, while Springfield just seems to want to take his friend’s girl. Ovid likes to play the game, and tells the readers that when women are guarded, it makes him more obsessed with them. However, Springfield says that “I know he’s been a good friend” about Jessie, as if he feels guilty about wanting his girl. To Springfield, his desire for this girl is intense and he knows that Jessie hasn’t wronged him in any way, so wanting her is wrong. Ovid simply wants what he can’t have and doesn’t care about the implications his feelings may have.

Ancient Text Excerpt:

Ovid
Page 267, Poem 2.19, lines 1-5

If you feel no need to guard your girl, fool,
guard her for my sake, so I’ll love her more.
If you can have it, who wants it; if you can’t, it burns hotter.
Only a man of iron loves what another lets him.
We lovers should fear as much as hope.

Key Lyrics:

Jessie is a friend, yeah
I know he’s been a good friend of mine
But lately something’s changed that ain’t hard to define
Jessie’s got himself a girl and I want to make her mine
And she’s watching him with those eyes
And she’s loving him with that body, I just know it
Yeah ‘n’ he’s holding her in his arms late, late at night
You know
I wish that I had Jessie’s girl
I wish that I had Jessie’s girl
Where can I find a woman like that


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Jessie is a friend, yeah
I know he’s been a good friend of mine
But lately something’s changed that ain’t hard to define
Jessie’s got himself a girl and I want to make her mine
And she’s watching him with those eyes
And she’s loving him with that body, I just know it
Yeah ‘n’ he’s holding her in his arms late, late at night
You know
I wish that I had Jessie’s girl
I wish that I had Jessie’s girl
Where can I find a woman like that
I play along with the charade
There doesn’t seem to be a reason to change
You know, I feel so dirty when they start talking cute
I wanna tell her that I love her
But the point is probably moot
‘Cause she’s watching him with those eyes
And she’s loving him with that body, I just know it
And he’s holding her in his arms late, late at night
You know
I wish that I had Jessie’s girl
I wish that I had Jessie’s girl
Where can I find a woman like that
Like Jessie’s girl
I wish that I had Jessie’s girl
Where can I find a woman
Where can I find a woman like that
And I’m looking in the mirror all the time
Wondering what she don’t see in me
I’ve been funny, I’ve been cool with the lines
Ain’t that the way love supposed to be
Tell me, where can I find a woman like that
You know, I wish that I had Jessie’s girl
I wish that I had Jessie’s girl
I want Jessie’s girl
Where can I find a woman like that
Like Jessie’s girl
I wish that I had Jessie’s girl
I want, I want Jessie’s girl

You Belong with Me

(Ancient Text by Theocritus, translated by Peter Bing and Rip Cohen) and You Belong with Me (Contemporary Song by Taylor Swift)

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In both Theocritus’ idyll 11 and Taylor Swift’s “You Belong with Me” they present a narrator talking to a person that they have feelings for and wonder why they person is not in love with them. The cyclops in Theocritus’ poem gives excuses for himself as to why Galatea does not want to be with him in the same way Swift’s narrator gives excuses for herself. They point out all the things that they do better and the reasons why the person they are writing/singing to should be with them and how they differ from what the person they want seems to be interested in. “Look at this beautiful life and love I could give you! Choose me!” both of these stories scream. We don’t get perspective from the narrators’ muses, though. Only the begging and asking for pity and forgiveness for their “otherness.”

 

The biggest difference, which isn’t present in Swift’s lyrics but in her music video, is that in the end the boy realizes that the narrator is the one he wants to be with and the narrator’s cries were worth something whereas I don’t believe Galatea ever falls in love with the cyclops or chooses to live with him.

Ancient Text Excerpt:

“I know, you charmer, why you run away: because a shaggy brow spans my whole forehead one vast brow from ear to ear, with a single eye beneath, a broad nose over the lip. Yet, though this is how I am, I tend a thousand head and milking them, I drink the finest milk.” (30-34)

Key Lyrics:

But she wears short skirts, I wear t-shirts. She’s cheer captain and I’m on the bleachers dreaming about the day when you wake up and find that what you’re looking for has been here the whole time. If you can see I’m the one who understands you. Been here all along so why can’t you see. You belong with me


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You’re on the phone with your girlfriend
She’s upset
She’s going off about something that you said
‘Cause she doesn’t get your humor like I do
I’m in my room
It’s a typical Tuesday night
I’m listening to the kind of music she doesn’t like
And she’ll never know your story like I do’
But she wears short skirts
I wear T-shirts
She’s cheer captain
And I’m on the bleachers
Dreaming about the day when you wake up
And find that what you’re looking for has been here the whole time
If you can see I’m the one who understands you
Been here all along so why can’t you see
You belong with me
You belong with me
Walkin’ the streets with you and your worn-out jeans
I can’t help thinking this is how it ought to be
Laughing on a park bench, thinking to myself
Hey isn’t this easy
And you’ve got a smile that could light up this whole town
I haven’t seen it in a while since she brought you down
You say your fine
I know you better then that
Hey what you doing with a girl like that
She wears high heels
I wear sneakers
She’s cheer captain and I’m on the bleachers
Dreaming about the day when you wake up
And find that what what you’re looking for has been here the whole time
If you can see that I’m the one who understands you
Been here all along so why can’t you see
You belong with me
Standing by and waiting at your back door
All this time how could you not know
Baby, you belong with me
You belong with me
Oh, I remember you drivin’ to my house in the middle of the night
I’m the one who makes you laugh
When you know you’re about to cry
And I know your favorite songs
And you tell me about your dreams
I think I know where you belong
I think I know it’s with me
Can’t you see that I’m the one who understands you
Been here all along so why can’t you see
You belong with me
Standing by and waiting at your back door
All this time
How could you not know
Baby you belong with me
You belong with me
You belong with me
Have you ever thought just maybe
You belong with me
You belong with me

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